The following conversations were recorded by Dr. Howard McCarley and Dr. Roger Anderson in the 1970s near Willis, Okla. They were dubbed to CD by Murray McCarley in 2000

Murray McCarley Maddog Productions
3101 El Capitan Dr.
Temple, TX 76512-1626

Conversation with Jesse Andrews, Clyde Johnson's father-in-law - Windows Media file | iTunes file

Conversation with Clarence Cryer of Cryer's Grocery - Windows Media file | iTunes file

Warning! These files are approximately 55 minutes long.